UT Police Officer Kills Wife, 2 Children, Mother-in-law & Self

Boren Family

Joshua “Jaden” (7), Joshua (34), Kelly (32), Haley (5) Boren

All above were found dead in the small Utah community of Spanish Fork along with Kelly’s mother, 55-year-old Marie King. It appeared that all died of gunshot wounds.

Joshua had spent 7 years with the UT County Sheriff’s department before he began working for the Lindon Police Department. There has been no report of a suicide note, but there are reports of problems with the marriage a couple of months ago along with a brief separation.

Clues in this case are many mainly because it was in Utah, which has long been one of the highest users of antidepressants in the nation, A new mandatory program for addressing mental health and on job stressors has just recently been put into place in Joshua’s department. And anyone in Utah knows the first line of treatment for relationship issues or stressors of any type or just about anything that ails you is an antidepressant.

The following is what I just posted in local media on the case and in answer to someone who had just brought up soldiers not asking for help because they are afraid their rights to firearms will be taken from them:

“How right you are and how right they are about their rights to own firearms! I put a blog out on that very issue last week. But in refusing treatment (which is generally antidepressants) they do not remain unhelped because antidepressants do not help with anxiety disorders. Instead they cause them according to research indicating that anxiety, depression, psychosis and suicide are all related to elevated serotonin levels rather than low serotonin levels.

“That has been known since the mid 50’s. In 2000 Dr. Murray Esler in Australia did research on those suffering anxiety disorders and found that they had serotonin levels eight times higher than normal! He then began asking as I have for over two decades why antidepressants are being prescribed for anxiety disorders which will further elevate their serotonin. In fact the latest research shows that antidepressants cause long term depression and it is my opinion after over two decades working with these patients that they also suffer long-term anxiety and Dr. Esler’s research would explain why that is so.

“Since the FDA warned in 2006 that anyone under the age of 25 has double the chance of suicide when they take antidepressants, which is generally the age of our military, why are we not realizing this is where the high rate of suicide is coming from among the troops? Did we all fail math?!

“Cases of murder/suicide as we have seen this week in UT were basically unheard of before these SSRI antidepressants. We have built a database of thousands of cases that can be found on our website if you Google “drugawareness” and “ssristories.” In both of the murder/suicides this week there was indication of possible prescriptions for these drugs….

“In Kyler’s case she had just lost her grandfather who she said was her whole “heart and soul”. This happened in mid Oct.

“In Joshua’s case he and his wife had had some marital difficulties in the past few months and the department had started a program to look for possible mental issues to insure they were treated. It takes so little to be prescribed an antidepressant – especially in Utah! Someone needs to ask in both of these tragedies. They are coming in at such a high rate that I cannot even begin to keep up now after tracking them for over two decades! The public has got to wake up from this serotonin nightmare!”

Original article: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/57410637-78/boren-police-chief-cullimore.html.csp

Ann Blake Tracy, Executive Director,
International Coalition for Drug Awareness
www.drugawareness.org & http://ssristories.drugawareness.org
Author: ”Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? – Our Serotonin Nightmare – The Complete Truth of the Full Impact of Antidepressants Upon Us & Our World” & Withdrawal CD “Help! I Can’t Get Off My Antidepressant!”

WITHDRAWAL WARNING: In sharing this information about adverse reactions to antidepressants I always recommend that you also give reference to my CD on safe withdrawal, Help! I Can’t Get Off My Antidepressant!, so that we do not have more people dropping off these drugs too quickly – a move which I have warned from the beginning can be even more dangerous than staying on the drugs!

The FDA also now warns that any abrupt change in dose of an antidepressant can produce suicide, hostility or psychosis. These reactions can either come on very rapidly or even be delayed for months depending upon the adverse effects upon sleep patterns when the withdrawal is rapid! You can find the hour and a half long CD on safe and effective withdrawal helps here: http://store.drugawareness.org/

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UT Mother and Two Daughters Dead in Murder/Suicide

Syracuse Murder Suicide

Syracuse Mother and Two Daughters Dead

Kyler

Kyler (32), Kenadee (13), Isabella (7)

UPDATE: 1/17/13: See latest news below stating link to “history of depression” ….

Tuesday evening the news broke that three bodies had been found in this home after neighbors heard what they thought to be gun shots. This morning police announced that it was a mother and her two daughters who were found dead. Police identify them as Kyler Ramsdell-Oliva, 32, and her two daughters — Kenadee Oliva, 13, and Isabella Oliva, 7. What an absolutely beautiful mother and daughters! We are still waiting to learn who killed whom. Be it mother or daughter who was doing the shooting, in both cases we find the use of antidepressants to be very, very high. (It has been confirmed that mother was the shooter.)

Here is one comment from Kyler’s Facebook page indicating there were some health issues:

  • Thanks for your input Kyler..I am so sick of Drs and their guessing games but I am with you on the signs…hopefully next year will be much better for us all..love you Sweetpea be happy

Well mid Oct appears to have been a perfect time for the prescribing of an antidepressant or the increase in an existing one. This was Kyler’s post about her grandfather who passed away then. He died days after this post: Kyler Ramsdell-Oliva

  • October 10, 2013
    My grandpa, who is my heart amd soul, my hero, my love is passing from this world to the next soon. I’m not much of a prayer but please pray for his wife and our family.
    And sadly the youngest child,  Bella,  had her seventh birthday just Saturday the 11th.

To indicate how completely out of character such a violent act as this murder/suicide was for Kyler … she posted this on her Facebook page just three weeks ago:

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The following is the comment I posted in the local news on this case – something all of us should be doing when these tragedies happen. I would have posted our database of cases (www.ssristories.drugawareness.org) mentioned if this news source allowed links but they do not.

“David W. you are correct that it is rare for a mother to take the lives of her children, but not when the mother is on an antidepressant. After tracking such cases for 25 years in building a database of these cases, which has been used in scientific studies, I suspected such to be the case last night when the news first broke and called a friend in the neighborhood to confirm that.

“Our research indicates over 90% of these mothers are taking or in a few cases have just abruptly discontinued the use of an antidepressant. And it was 15 years ago now that I did the Leeza Gibbons Show addressing this very issue. Sadly nothing has changed since then other than the increased frequency of the cases – little different than what we have found with well over 90% of school shooters being on antidepressants. Curious that both were extremely rare before the introduction of these new designer antidepressants which now have both suicidal and homicidal ideation (compulsive thoughts) listed as potential side effects.

“In this case I once again await confirmation of that connection to these drugs while I continue to wait for the world to see the evidence I have seen in over two decades of testifying as an expert witness in these cases.

“Why post here? Because this is a public safety issue that never should have remained hidden from the general public due to vested interests. Even in doing the Leeza Gibbons Show we were told as we walked onto the stage that we would be allowed to say the word “antidepressant” but we were not to say the brand names of the drugs “because of our advertisers.”

Original article: http://www.ksl.com/?sid=28364908&nid=148&title=syracuse-deaths-were-murder-suicide-police-believe&fm=home_page&s_cid=featured-1

Depression connection mentioned 1/17/13:

“On Tuesday, Kyler Ramsdell-Oliva, 32, shot her two daughters, Kenadee Oliva, 13, and Isabella Oliva, 7, in their Syracuse home before killing herself.

“The mother had just broken up with her fiance and told him to leave their home. Close friend Pegi Butler said Ramsdell-Oliva had fought depression, but things in her life had improved in recent years. She confessed to Butler that she still loved the man deeply but was heartbroken. Still, Butler never suspected she or the girls were in any danger when they spoke on Sunday.”

Read more at http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=28387824#qBzJTOl6cZ8wOzzw.99

In another article Pegi Butler went on to say, “Over the past three years, Butler was hopeful Ramsdell-Oliva was conquering the depression she had fought through her youth, agreeing to participate in counseling and getting her life running smoothly.” 

Read more at http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865594332/Longtime-friend-says-Syracuse-mother-in-murder-suicide-battled-depression.html?pg=all#qXcSebrCBF61kmpL.99

So with being treated for depression for so many years it is clear to me she was either currently on an antidepressant or in withdrawal from one when the shooting occurred.

Ann Blake Tracy, Executive Director,
International Coalition for Drug Awareness
www.drugawareness.org & http://ssristories.drugawareness.org
Author: ”Prozac: Panacea or Pandora? – Our Serotonin Nightmare – The Complete Truth of the Full Impact of Antidepressants Upon Us & Our World” & Withdrawal CD “Help! I Can’t Get Off My Antidepressant!”

WITHDRAWAL WARNING: In sharing this information about adverse reactions to antidepressants I always recommend that you also give reference to my CD on safe withdrawal, Help! I Can’t Get Off My Antidepressant!, so that we do not have more people dropping off these drugs too quickly – a move which I have warned from the beginning can be even more dangerous than staying on the drugs!

The FDA also now warns that any abrupt change in dose of an antidepressant can produce suicide, hostility or psychosis. These reactions can either come on very rapidly or even be delayed for months depending upon the adverse effects upon sleep patterns when the withdrawal is rapid! You can find the hour and a half long CD on safe and effective withdrawal helps here: http://store.drugawareness.org/

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